I had about 3 hours of climbing before i had to go to my grandma's birthday party. Why we were insane enough to start climbing the thumb in that short amount of time is beyond me (we had aspirations of topping out.. HA!). Let's just say the 'Lunch Ledge'is aptly named. Anywho, It is very much as pure as trad climbing gets. Scree and choss and very moderate climbing. I probabley jugged more than I climbed, but still.. fun, in it's own little way. The approach took about 45 minutes and it took another hour to get to the top of the first pitched.. I only made it half up. Half up was a scree covered ledge where I was able to take myself off belay and work on my tan allowing spence to secure our escape. At that point I had to be home in a half hour. He secured one end of the rope to the anchor, we did one single line rapell down and had another party untie our rope. Very convinient. We made it back in record time (I was walking in my front door 12 minutes late). The communication sucked. At one point I was 60 meters below spence at the belay ledge. We need radios for long trad routes. He got to place his new cam though. 3.5 friend.... yummy.